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When one purchases a franchise it is because they want to be business owners and taught by professional business owners (franchisor) who have proven business models that they follow step-by-step. 

Franchisors interview potential franchisee's period.  They know whether that person has experience or not and/or can follow their business model.  The purpose again is to "learn how-to".

Alot goes on behind closed doors after you're into a franchise.  Often too late to get out because of the capital invested.  That is when you find out whether there is a proven business model in place in all areas, especially for marketing, and whether the projected gross revenue is based on actuals or some other calculations.  You also find out if you raise too many questions you are treated like nothing by the franchisor for raising those questions and that you are always to blame for your business not working. 

So to those who again blame the franchisee for their business failure - not every case is based on the franchisee's failure.  Once you become disappointed in your franchisor it is very hard to continue the relationship in a productive manner on either side.  If franchisee's were well versed on starting and operating their own businesses they wouldn't need a franchisor, especially one that is not well known like McDonalds, Burger King, Kentucky Fried Chicken, etc.

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An AED is not guaranteed to

An AED is not guaranteed to save a life like you so imply. How do you know that the death you witnessed was because the AED was applied too late? What if this person collapsed from PEA instead of Vfib? An aed would be useless in PEA. You are making a lot of assumptions. As far as the legality of it, yes I agree you probably need someone on site at all times, but I think you are being a bit dramatic.

An AED is not guaranteed to

An AED is not guaranteed to save a life like you so imply. How do you know that the death you witnessed was because the AED was applied too late? What if this person collapsed from PEA instead of Vfib? An aed would be useless in PEA. You are making a lot of assumptions. As far as the legality of it, yes I agree you probably need someone on site at all times, but I think you are being a bit dramatic.

Flipping a Snap fitness to a privately owned gym

We are trying to save our home town Snap Fitness. We do NOT want to be part of that franchise. We have gotten the owner to agree to sell us all the equipment in the gym.

The problem here lies in the contract. We believe it states that the owner is obligated to sell the equipment BACK to Snap before selling it otherwise.

There are no liens against the equipment and the owner paid cash up front. He owes nothing on it.

Can Snap come back and try to get this equipment from us? We have an attorney is more worried about the liens (which the owner states there are none) than worried about the corporation trying to grab our stuff.

Help? How do we flip this into our own gym without being sued for it because the owner defaults on his contract?

Please email me at: iilaad65@yahoo.com if you have any advice. Thank you!!

YOU SIGNED A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL

I feel for you. You are stuck in a perpetual contract. You are screwed. Believe me your not the only one that is very unhappy with the ethics of Snap Fitness and peter taunton. Today he is probably sitting in the front row in church tomorrow he will be looking for another victim. Peter taunton and his brother Paul have had dealings with Tom Peters taking millions from people.

RE: Flipping a Snap Fitness......You can't be serious? READ!

You are dealing with the company co-founded by Peter Taunton, Mr. Ethics himself who clearly has a swindling conviction in the fitness industry. You are crazy to assume this is a square deal...You did say Snap Fitness, correct? Franchisee contract....this is an absolute no brainer! This franchisee got bent over and is now trying the same move on you.

Snap Fitness CEO, PETER TAUNTON = Case # 24040055, Court File # K598001371, Disposition Date 3/18/1999, Minnesota Attorney General's Office St. Paul, Kaniyohi District Court, Theft-by Swindle-Artifice/Trick/Device or Other, Statute # 609.52.2.4., CONVICTED

Does this help you at all?

the person said they wanted to convert a snap. They want to

Make it a mom and pop. Read the post. Its like you type before you think. Perhaps you do a lot of things before you think. Maybe why you are such a dissappointment to yourself and family.

Reply to: the person said......why don't you take Peter a drink?

YES, Snap Fitness may have an angle of getting the money from the equipment if the owner defaults on his franchise agreement! Consult with an attorney, the a_sshole Guest above is from Snap Fitness and would love to see you suckered into biting this dangling bait. It might even be Peter Taunton himself, he is feeling the feedback from this and other sites and has hired henchmen to post favorable crap about his franchise. The big boys don't play fair.....why should they?

Real as it gets..............

Real as it gets..............

This is absolutely ridiculous

This has to be some pi$$ed off health club owner getting his lunch eaten. It never cesases to amazxe me how pathetic some people can be. Talk about sour grapes. Gez.

RE: This is absolutely ridiculous

The steaming pile post above "This is absolutely ridiculous" is obviously from corporate or a current franchisee. Please remind the readers of the 4% Snap Fitness closures last year which amounts to over $8 million of lost investment, the swindling conviction of your CEO as noted below, the embellishments of that same CEO in this forum (Peter Taunton, CEO Snap Fitness) as well as other websites and the seemingly disregard for the well being of struggling franchisees. May-August are the most popular months for closures so watch for an empty building coming soon to to a town near you compliments of Snap Fitness. BUYER BEWARE!

What does the comment to this letter have to do with

Snap Fitness? His comments were about the intent of the letter. He didn't say anything about Snap. We get it.

RE: What does the comment..............

Scroll down, scroll up. The topic has not deviated from Snap Fitness. We get it, you're a shill

Snap Fitness - Rocky Horror Picture Show gone wild......

Snap Fitness CEO, PETER TAUNTON = Case # 24040055, Court File # K598001371, Disposition Date 3/18/1999, Minnesota Attorney General's Office St. Paul, Kaniyohi District Court, Theft-by Swindle-Artifice/Trick/Device or Other, Statute # 609.52.2.4., CONVICTED

This was back in 1995

and Involved membership agreements in a chain of health clubs PT owned. We looked into this years ago. This has been posted here before. It is old news. It has no relation to Snap Fitness or the business model. It's easy to find the details on the case. I was a misdemeanor.

Conv_cted in 1999, just a few years before Snap Fitness.....

"I was a misdemeanor." Thank you for the clarification, Peter!

PETER TAUNTON, CEO Snap Fitness = Case # 24040055, Court File # K598001371, Disposition Date 3/18/1999, Minnesota Attorney General's Office St. Paul, Kaniyohi District Court, Theft-by Sw_ndle-Artifice/Trick/Device or Other, Statute # 609.52.2.4., CONV_CTED.

Place it Local

Placeitlocal , we are here for serving a better service to the people with lot of our Product.

What's going on with Coldstone and Zarco

That thread has gone cold. Any news on that situation. What about the tv show? Did it air?

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Coldstone/Zarco?

"That thread has gone cold. Any news on that situation."

Looks like maybe the Hired Gun did his job - barked at CNBC, got some changes made, so now he's done?

The Show

Behind the counter is back on the air. I saw their site but can't fine any videos for the cold stone story. Does anyone have a link to the show?

I would appreciate a link

to that story. I can't find it anywhere.

Highlights of Bluemaumau forum "Anytime Fitness or Snap Fitness"

For those who want to stay up to date with the progression of the 24/7 fitness club franchisers, this should help!
Post "Can't have it both ways......POTENTIAL FRANCHISEES READ HERE"
The self proclaimed 24/7 fitness franchise expert continues to defend, attack, embarrass, offend and simply make an _ss out of himself and must actually believe anyone cares what he writes anymore. He posts his slanted opinion and provides no evidence to substantiate. Name calling and duplicating posts will not fly in this forum.
THE FACT IS if Snap Fitness franchisees would have had the information in the posts below previous to signing the contract, how many would have bailed before signing up for this financial massacre? Scroll down of these pertinent posts:
REPLY TO BELOW: i have no connection with snap
Focus on Facts
Who wants to be the next pinata?
Anytime Fitness or Snap Fitness - How about neither?

Post "Have some more diligence.........no extra charge!"
Rebates? I think we all understand that these are KICKBACKS for overpriced services and products. Anyone at Snap Fitness experience this, besides every franchisee I know? Read the first link below because it is oh so pertinent. The second link are comments. ENJOY!

http://www.bluemaumau.org/inadequate_disclosure_rebate_practices_increase_risk_franchisee_class_actions

http://www.bluemaumau.org/node/10023/talk

Post "Corporate Shill warning of "major lawsuit" directed at blogger"
Just when you thought you had seen it all, the Snap Fitness corporate shill shows up on a complaint site warning a blogger Nathan of "major lawsuits". Anyone else here have a problem with this?

http://snap-fitness.pissedconsumer.com/snap-fitness-casper-very-rude-20110222223084.html

Anytime Fitness or Snap Fitness - Forums getting sketchy?

Posts have been and continue to be removed from forums but the constant spam of Tom Garmon's plight to recruit potential independent club investors and advertise his consulting services are left untouched? This should concern all who post here. The paragraph below is posted numerous times in this forum.

"Tom Garmon is an independant business broker who has been involved in the fitness industry since 1991. He does not work for a franchise system in any form or fashion. He has had the opportunity to review financial statements for well over 250 health clubs and fitness franchises. Fitness is a highly compeditive industry and before signing any franchise agreement one should perform due diligence by speaking in person with franchisees and contact an attorney. Cheers! 800-457-0350 ext 300"

Observations of an Independent Fitness Industry Business Broker

Many of the clubs that I saw which were not profitable or had lower profitability had a few things in common. 

(1) Rents in excess of $5000.00 per month. I looked at struggling clubs in both models and about 80% of failing clubs had rents exceeding this. I didn't track the successful clubs with rents in excess of $5,000.  I actually tracked low performing clubs as it related to rent levels; since this is generally equal to or greater than payroll and can literally make or break profitability.

(2) Equipment lease payments totaling $2000 per month or more. This eats into cash flow and thereby reducing profitability. Why leverage 80-100k on a lease totaling $24k a year. Paying cash for your equipment will pay for itself in approximately 3 years when compared to a lease over 5 years. That's a good portion of the ROI. People should not lease equipment. Period. If you can't afford to pay cash in the startup phase don't buy.

(3) Absentee ownership (owners living out of town and not involved in any day to day) People who were sold the ease of absentee ownership and purchased on that premise were largely unhappy, due to the challenges of managing the managers and performing aggressive local marketing and sales functions.  You aren't going to get a "go getter" as a part-time manager for $800 per month. Sure there is the exception to the rule, but generally speaking this is a big factor. Remember success in the health club business is not so much the palace as it is the people. While some members are the self service type this doesn't apply to the sales function. Exceptional management is the key to successful sales, marketing, and member retention. (One demographic where payrolls decrease or even eliminated (in rare cases) are in high income areas where the gym is effectively a defacto personal training studio. Trainers are paid by clients, but will maintian the facility and assist with sales as part of the arrangements.)

Franchisee dissatisfaction is much higher among this group which has these three above factors present.  I am willing to venture that the people here who are unhappy can check off at least two of the three above items.

Among franchisees who didn't have the above 3 negatives, satisfaction was much more on the positive side.  Profitable Anytime and Snaps generally generate (on average) net margins between 20% and 35% of revenue. As revenue increases there is some margin pressure from incremental increases in payroll and discretionary expenses such as marketing and promotions. A breakeven club can add 100 members with 85% to 90% of the revenue added as net income ($35,000 annually or more), but lose 100 members and the opposite holds true as well. Income level fluctuations can be volatile if an abrupt change in management or ownership occurs, whether positive or negative.

Attrition levels in these types of facilities is best tracked on a 4 month moving average, targeting  3%-4% attrition each month. A 300 member club should expect to lose 9-12 people on average every month. A club with properly trained staff should see 60% of their appointments come in and enroll 80% of those guests. Upon rebooking the no shows 50% of those should come in the next 2-3 appointment rebooks. This is why a sales person is ever so important. Essentially one needs to target 30 guest a month to maintain a 300 member club.

I estimate that the median 24 hour club (based on my data) has 300-350 memberships, generates between 37.00 and 45.00 per membership, with revenues between $13,000.00 and $17,000.00 per month.  Higher income areas see added revenue with personal training services. Management should be high energy with a sales background and have strong direction for prospecting, telemarketing, sales, and member relations. Owners will likely be doing some micromanaging with the managent level, directing local marketing efforst, including flyers, local strategic partnerships, buddy referral promotions (in house). Typical payrolls fall between a very low side of $1200.00 per month to and upper average $2500.00

FRANCHISED 24/7 FITNESS CLUBS - INVESTING AND ATTORNEYS

Anyone stop and think why it is so difficult for regulars in this forum to figure out who is posting the harsh realities of the 24/7 fitness club business model? Could it be there are so many franchisees who have failed, sold at a loss, are failing or have been disillusioned that the pool of possible people is just too large to know? When all else fails, it can always be blamed on a lawyer.

SAVING POTENTIAL FRANCHISEES FROM INVESTING IN THIS LOSER BUSINESS MODEL IS THE GOAL. If you are already in the franchise system, it would be prudent to have an exit strategy in place. Franchise contracts are rigid and legally binding so hiring an attorney AFTER THE FACT would just compound the problem and add more financial burden.

Until franchisers provide the percentage of clubs actually making money or experiencing a reasonable return on investment, the best way to protect yourself from potential financial catastrophe is to avoid it altogether.

Thank you Chicken Little

I see successful health club owners and unsuccessful ones. There are many factors that make up successful and unsuccessful businesses. To brand a complete industry in that manner is hogwash.

Not hogwash.

This industry is full of lies. Period.

Tom Garmon recruiting business here (a true professional)

Just when you thought you had seen it all, a club consultant, business reseller and independent club rep begins trolling bluemaumau for clients. Anyone smell that odor.......it's the ripe smell of desperation. He needs you to call him. He wants you to call him. He surely has several slots available for new clients. Tom aka "the never ending punchline" can help you save ANY club or open a new one without a franchiser. If you are buying this, please post your name, number and request brochures of a nice piece of land I am selling in the everglades. LOL

What About

the attorneys here scrounging for clients and franwack customers? Are they unprofessional or are they held to a lower standard?

Thank you for the kind words.

What the heck is a club rep? Please elaborate so we can get this discussion going.

Why Trial Lawyers Don't Usually Win Against Franchises

There are many horror stories out there in the franchise world. People are often oversold by hungry sales people. Often franchise systems will employ 3rd party sales groups to help with the sales function,while the franchise system focuses on operations and support and pay heavy fees and encourage "multi packs" or "master territories". Urgency may be used is the sales technique "fear of loss" or the "takeaway". Do not fall for these tactics. If you feel these tactics are being used, run. If you are reading this and it's too late for that advice, keep reading there's more.

While there are many different levels of support among franchisees, it is the intersection of a franchisee's expectations and actual support that leads to franchisee satisfaction. Naturally every franchisee wants to be financially successful. After all, we all want to make a good return on our investment. So when we buy a franchise and what we were sold isn't what we were delivered, we naturally look to the franchisor for answers.

I have talked with franchisees who feel they were oversold, even misrepresented. If you read this blog there is no doubt that you have seen ads for franchise attorneys and post by them. If you haven't purchased a franchise and are looking into one now; then this would be the time to contact them to review the franchise offering. You will see many aggressive post around this site, anonymously. Many of these are posted by trial lawyers, failed franchisees, and competitors attempting to smear one another and their brands, even their names. People claim you are destined for failure or sure to succeed. People here anonymously attack one another, it get's unprofessional even ugly.

If you are here because you have suffered financial ruin and think that contacting an attorney, not so fast, have you read your franchise agreement to find a clause that says something to the effect that you have "not relied on any information provided by any verbal representation" something to that effect"? You might be SOL. Federal law is so much in favor of the franchise system that the system itself as a whole is see more valuable than your individual rights. Attorneys will lead you to believe that you have a chance, encourage you to recruit for a class action. Don't fall for this. You are about to get on the 2nd Sucker Train. Ask the attorney to provide you with a specific case study as it related to your complaint and your FRANCHISE AGREEMENT. You are likely to be sold your next bottle of snake oil.

Utilize the attorney when he can actually help you and catch a bad agreement or system before you take the plunge. Once you've made the mistake there is very little an attorney can do for you except cost you more money. Recently a major case against Curves International was settled after plaintiffs paid thousands of dollars to their attorney over 2 years and many didn't get enough to recover their damages and instead were counter sued by the franchisor and incurred even more legal fees. The franchise horror stories usually end with the franchise lawyers.

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Guest 1 knows what the scoop is.

People read the comments above.  You need to get a franchise attorney before you sign.  After getting fleeced the only one who makes money is the zor and the counselor. 

The reason I respect many of the counselors on this site is they give free advice. 

The truth is if people don't get hurt in franchising than the lawyers would not make any money.  (Very much like doctors, if people don't get sick they would be out of business.) 

Yes you are correct.

I know 2 people who sued their franchisor and now the only person they hate more is their FRANCHISE ATTORNEY! Franchise attorneys can do nothing after you sign an agreement. Franchise lawyers slub all aound here, trying to appeal to the "victom" since they are already proven to make ill informed decions. They recruit these suckers to recruit for class action suits, knowing full good and well that they are building a chain of fools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-uNb_Nihuk

WHY SNAP FITNESS FRANCHISEES FAIL?

Why do Snap Fitness franchises fail?
1. Inaccurate representation of potential financial success by corporate
2. Factual statistics about financial health of current franchisees "not available"
3. Weak business model
4. Inadequate support provided to franchisees by corporate
5. "No contract" memberships become a liability in time
6. Billing, software and technical equipment continually have issues
7. Requires turnover of staff to keep costs low. Revolving door employees.
8. Return on investment, if any, is scant and unjustified for the amount of risk
9. CORPORATE IS MAKING HUGE PROFITS WHILE FRANCHISEES ARE WIPING OUT

PETER TAUNTON = Case # 24040055, Court File # K598001371, Disposition Date 3/18/1999, Minnesota Attorney General's Office St. Paul, Kaniyohi District Court, Theft-by Swindle-Artifice/Trick/Device or Other, Statute # 609.52.2.4., CONVICTED, Probation Sentence - 2 Years

PETER TAUNTON AND SNAP FITNESS DIRECT QUOTES: (EMBELLISHMENTS)
"Running these gyms is a breeze," Taunton tells prospective franchisees in a weekly conference call. "All you need is an Internet browser."

"Snap Fitness claims that the fitness industry is "recession proof"

"Franchisees benefit from the absentee ownership model, Taunton says, which allows one manager to man the location between 15 and 20 hours per week."

"Snap Fitness could realistically add another 100 locations in Minnesota since it can place its 2,700- to 3,200-square-foot clubs in communities with as few as 3,000 people."

Taunton said he’s found the typical Snap Fitness club can break even with as few as 220 to 250 members.

PETER'S FAN CLUB: By Guest2010-01-25 21:52 (Read the entire post using the date to find in the "Anytime Fitness or Snap Fitness" forum) Peter Taunton's Snap Fitness; "Beware. I know Peter Taunton , and I believe wholeheartedly that he is as shallow and dishonest as one can be. In my opinion, he is a con artist through and through and I think he is capable of scr_wing anyone who gets in the way of him making his almighty dollar; the dollar seems to be his god."

Go to this forum to read more: http://www.bluemaumau.org/franchise_horror_stories

We looked into that court case you mentioned since we are Zees

It was in 1995 and involved 5 members of a health club wanting a refund. When they didn't get it they pushed the issue and won. Being a multi unit operator over the long term will most likely have a few court cases where members want refunds and if you don't give them it could escalate into something you may not be too happy with. Our policy in our club is to give refunds to prepaids if they request to cancel. At first reading this is was upset, but after looking further we determined that the psot here is more imflammatory than informative.

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3. Weak business model

That's the main problem right there.  If the stores were making $$$ it would hardly matter if the Zor was Jack the Ripper.  The mass fitness business is becoming a commodity.  Here, two franchised gyms (different "concepts" but the same thing) opened up across the street from each other.  I think they are now at $10/mo., no sign-up fee, with heavy radio advertising.  How ya gonna make $ on that?

The winner could only be the one who outdid the other on buildout since, if the fee is the same then the customers will go to the gym with snazzier facilities.  So somebody has to spend the other into oblivion.  Unless they both go down from excessive cost of capital, of course.

HELP- Want Anytime Fitness Franchise Fee REFUNDED

We searched and researched for 6 months + prior to signing. Anytime Corp flew to my city and did a sales presentation trying to get people to open in our area. Corp proudly voiced their 740 average # of members and 2-3% failure rate..The day before the "Sales Pitch Conference" we got a phone call that if we did not pay & sign we were going to loose the area we have been researching for the last 6 months, which we lost anyway... So we signed and paid. Now the situation for our market is ALL of the gyms are FAILING (happened in 2010, so not posted in Disclosure Document). Failing as in have closed their doors, sold, or are struggling (9 out of 10 in our market). Gyms that have 200-350 members after years on being open, when break even is near 500+. Before dumping our life saving into this disaster we asked for a refund of our fee and we would go our own way. We have been mislead and deceived. We are going to pursue a refund of our full franchise fee. Aware that the fee is non-refundable, but searching for ways to get around their ironclad system.

Any help or advise would be appreciated.
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what city

What city are you in

Don't believe any Lawyer who says they can help.

the only thing worse is a franchise lawyer. Just as the Curves owners represented by a firm out of Florida that starts with a Z. A friend of mine was in that suit and he didn't make enough to pay the lawyer's retainer! He ended up hating the lawyers more than the franchisors. Lawyers troll here looking to drum up business. BEWARE..

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fat chance = slim chance

"We are going to pursue a refund of our full franchise fee. Aware that the fee is non-refundable, but searching for ways to get around their ironclad system. "

Yeah, let us know how you do on that.  You researched for six months and this is the best you could do?  You actually bit on a "sign today today today or you'll lose your ground floor (or whatever) opportunity"???  Yes indeed, let us know how you do getting your fee back.

RE: HELP- Want Anytime Fitness Franchise Fee REFUNDED

It could be worse. It could be Snap Fitness!!!

The below anti fitness industry shill wants to have your freedom

taken away, simply to generate a lawsuit for some trial lawyer. This just goes to show what anti franchise, anti fitness industry shills lurk here.

Former 24 Hour Club

Former 24 Hour Club Franchisees: Feel free to copy, paste and send to your state legislators and management of health department and environmental department.

Dear State Legislator, Environmental or Health Department Supervisor,

It has come to the attention of thousands of legitimate nationwide health club owners and health club members that franchised 24 hours clubs are offering amenities and availability that are not consistent with state, county and city laws and regulations.

Please check your current state laws and regulations. We have already researched this extensively and know a high percentage of states are not properly enforcing their laws and regulations in regards to 24 hour clubs.

SEVERAL STATES REQUIRE AN AED AND/OR CERTIFIED CPR STAFF ON DUTY AT A HEALTH CLUB AT ALL TIMES.

NEARLY ALL STATES REQUIRE A TRAINED OPERATOR FOR TANNING AT HEALTH CLUBS AT ALL TIMES TANNING IS AVAILABLE AND BEING USED.

NUMEROUS STATES REQUIRE STAFFING AT ALL TIMES A HEALTH CLUB IS OPEN OR AVAILABLE.

The risk for a person to have an emergency medical condition during exercise is ten times higher for those with heart disease risk factors.

Here are a few scenarios that could easily occur in a 24 hour club. Who would be liable with the current laws and regulations on the books?

1. A 24 hour club member has a heart attack in the middle of the night with no one else around. There is an AED on the wall but no one to use it. If the law states there is always to be an employee on the premises at all times for a health club, who is liable?

2. A 24 hour club member has a heart attack in the middle of the night with no one else around. There is an AED on the wall but no one to use it. If the law states there is always to be an AED/CPR certified employee on staff at all times, who is liable?

3. A 24 hour club member has a heart attack in the middle of the night and the only other person in the club is tanning. There is an AED on the wall but no one to use it. If the law states there is always to be an employee on staff at all times while tanning is being operated, who is liable?

This not only puts the 24 hour clubs at risk for liability, but also the state, couty and city entities requiring and enforcing these laws and regulations.

I personally witnessed a club member death at a health club that was totally unnecessary. The person was provided with excellent emergency treatment but the club did not have an AED on site. The AED was used later on the way to the hospital and they were revived but too much time had passed without oxygen to their brain.

I encourage you to go to the website www.bluemaumau.com and to the "Anytime Fitness or Snap Fitness" forum to read the feedback from the community in regards to these issues. It would be prudent to address these before situations occur to solicit lawsuits.

THE 24 HOURS CLUBS HAVE ADOPTED AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER STAFFED CLUBS DUE TO THEIR CIRCUMVENTING LAWS AND REGULATIONS THAT SHOULD BE INFORCED FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE CONSUMERS.

I would only ask that you research this issue in regards to your state laws and regulations. Thank you for the courtesy.

Yours in health,

A Concerned Fitness Educator

PS. I am not a health club owner, investor, franchisee or employee. I am a concerned citizen who understands the risk of exercise, liability and cost of litigation.
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You sound like a loser or an attorney

Same difference. You should get a life.

Snap Fitness problems international

http://www.mouthshut.com/product-reviews/Snap_Fitness_-_Bangalore-925103239.html

PETER TAUNTON - SNAP FITNESS - HORROR STORY

PETER TAUNTON = Case # 24040055, Court File # K598001371, Disposition Date 3/18/1999, Minnesota Attorney General's Office St. Paul, Kaniyohi District Court, Theft-by Swindle-Artifice/Trick/Device or Other, Statute # 609.52.2.4., CONVICTED, Probation Sentence - 2 Years

Taunton dropped out of college when he was 20 to play professional racquetball along with his twin brother.

PETER'S QUOTES:
"Running these gyms is a breeze," Taunton tells prospective franchisees in a weekly conference call. "All you need is an Internet browser."

"Also, there are no long-term contracts binding members to the facility."

"Snap Fitness claims that the fitness industry is "recession proof"

“Minimally staffed fitness centers have been around in the hotel and resort communities for years [and] Snap Fitness has helped bring it into the mainstream,” he says. (Yes, but legally?)

"Franchisees benefit from the absentee ownership model, Taunton says, which allows one manager to man the location between 15 and 20 hours per week."

"Snap Fitness could realistically add another 100 locations in Minnesota since it can place its 2,700- to 3,200-square-foot clubs in communities with as few as 3,000 people."

Taunton said he’s found the typical Snap Fitness club can break even with as few as 220 to 250 members.

PETER'S FAN CLUB: By Guest2010-01-25 21:52 (Read the entire post using the date to find in the "Anytime Fitness or Snap Fitness" forum) Peter Taunton's Snap Fitness; "Beware. I know Peter Taunton , and I believe wholeheartedly that he is as shallow and dishonest as one can be. In my opinion, he is a con artist through and through and I think he is capable of screwing anyone who gets in the way of him making his almighty dollar; the dollar seems to be his god."

More Snap Fitness for sale - HORROR STORIES ABOUND!

Check out this link of Snaps for sale!

http://www.maincloud.com/news-Snap-Fitness

Territories available cheap! Original franchisee could not even open and are selling at a loss. Other franchisees are drowning and realizing its time to get out before its too late. DON'T BE THE NEXT VICTIM!

Response to post below

RE: Right...just like the (coporate arrogance alive and well)
We will see with the first unnecessary death (and lawsuit) that occurs in a 24 hour club breaking the law due to required staff, AED or CPR certified staff or tanning operators. Arrogance and ignorance will contribute to the limitations of this business model. You are a perfect example.

RESPONSE: any lawsuit won't affect us...we operate completely within the law :) As for the limitations of this business, I haven't seen any...we continue to climb in memberships and profits...and I know you are well aware of the lack of limits of the corporate success...what is it 5,000% growth!!

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Franchise Operations